365gay.com is reporting the details of the San Diego baseball bat attacks on 3 gay men leaving pride as reported by a survivor (not a victim, but a survivor) of the attack:
Mullins said he called 911 on his cellphone and began to follow the attackers through Balboa Park.
The gang next went after a man who was sitting on a bench. “They just beat him … They just kept beating him,” Mullins testified.
The gang then attacked another man in some bushes. “They yelled ‘faggot’ at him,” Mullins told the court.
There exist a climate of violence against gays and lesbians. It will not end until we as a society stop with the barrage of messages that make gays and lesbians the enemy. As long as people are portraying gays as the enemy of America, a threat to freedom and the other hateful messages, this violence will never end. We need to end hate speech and laws won’t do it. We need to change hearts and minds. We need those spewing this message to see and understand its effects.
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September 22nd, 2006 at 9:43 pm
how come its only the mainstream media and gay media that reports on this violence never conservatives or “ex-gays” report on this and come up with ways to reduce the violence. Why the silence. If this was a group of christians or “ex-gays” then they would be all over it like vultures to a carcass, but with anti-gay violence its like the parable of the good samaritan, how the levite and the priest avoid the injured man like the plague. If they were good samaritans they would put aside differences and come up with ways to reduce such violence, like sticking to the bible, stop using false statistics to malign us. Telling the whole truth about gays for a change and report on the good and the bad on gays like gay media does. It would do a whole lot to show the world that while they don’t have to approve of us gays they can still treat us with respect. Get that DL Foster R-E-S-P-E-C-T, if you want respect for “exgays” than you first should show respect for us. Remember the golden rule Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Love God with all your heart, might, mind and strength, and love your neighbor as yourself, that and that alone is the gospel of Jesus.
September 23rd, 2006 at 9:20 am
or Adam, perhaps we need to show them respect before they respect us.
September 23rd, 2006 at 12:53 pm
Joe, for me it is very hard to respect someone when they are calling me evil, bashing me, or telling me I am going to hell, or that I don’t really love my partner, and so on. I think there can only be true respect if two people or groups acknowledge that there is good in each and then work from there.
Of course, it needs to start somewhere, even if the other side is not willing to budge–but this wouldn’t be respect (as far as I am concerned).
September 23rd, 2006 at 2:01 pm
Well kkaatz,
I know it isn’t easy, but we cannot demand the respect us first if we are not willing to show them the same thing or they will just claim we don’t repsect them, so why should they respect us? It all has to start somewhere and why not us.
Joe
September 23rd, 2006 at 7:16 pm
joe these “exgays” cannot get respect from us gays unless and until they stop using the issue as a political tool to take away our rights and dehumanize us. And until they stop victimizing youth like Lance Carroll and Zach Stark I will never respect them. These kids are already hurting as is and these people come and tell them that they are broken people that they need to change to become acceptable to god, and then when inevitably change doesn’t come they tell the person that it is their fault for change not happening that they just didn’t try hard enough, setting these people up for depression and suicide, until these people first give informed consent to these kids and their parents about the dangers and risks involved in such therapy so that parents will know the reality of these programs I can never support ex-gays or “ex-gay” programs. If we require informed consent for abortion then the same should apply to “ex-gay “programs.
September 23rd, 2006 at 8:04 pm
Hey Joe,
I guess my point is that I don’t know how to respect someone that would rather me not exist. How can someone do that? How can I give respect to someone like Debra JM Smith or DL Foster? Could the Jews respect the Nazis as they were being shipped out to the concentration camps? I wonder if there is another concept rather than respect that I need to feel for these people.
And for me, they really need to start the process since it is people like Foster and Smith and LaBarbera that have started this mess in the first place. I don’t know how, as a victim, I should respect them when they have no intention of returning it.
Kevin