I got a rather heated and passionate comment here on the site and I wanted to do my best to reply with the most amount of compassion that I could. I do not believe responding in hate to hate is helpful, compassion to others is helpful, so here goes (my replies are in blue):
Roy Martin |
Any thing that goes against the laws of nature has negative consiquences.All of you gay people think you have the right to infest your evil sex acts and desease on society.
Well, Roy, you did a good job at telling us what we think, but you have to admit you don’t really know what we think. It does sound like you are concerned for safety and needing to know that you are safe from disease. I can tell you that you are safe.
You say you were born that way but God did not create gay people.It is an evil spirit and you make the choice to except it just as drug users and murderers and child molesters do.They all have an excuse just as you do.
Roy, when I see you equate gays with evil, child molesters and murderers, I feel sad and angry. I need to be seen as authentic and real. I would never wish harm on a child, nor as a follower of nonviolence would I kill or harm another. It just isn’t in my values. I need for you to see me as transparent and human, because I am. Please let me know how I am can bring that compassion out of you.
You get angry at people and society if we bash your unnatural acts.If we except gay as normal then whats wrong with having sex with animals and children even our own daughters and sons.
Here Roy, you have gone down the slippery slope trail. I am not attracted to members of the opposite sex. I am attracted to member of the same sex. That doesn’t include relatives or children and certainly not animals. I just don’t have any attraction to the opposite sex and I never have. I do have an attraction to the same sex. With that said, I found a nice guy and we have been together for 8 years.
We can say we were born that way.If we except gay rights then it will be only a matter of time that all of these evil things that are against our design and laws of nature will be rampant on this earth.
Roy, if I read your words correctly, it sounds like you are concerned and afraid that if society accept gays and lesbians that the safety of the future is at risk. I am inspired by your need for safety for all. I hear your need for laws that protect us, all. I can only say that we gays and lesbians wish for the sane safety for this earth.
Its not your fault that this evil unclean spirit came into you but its your fault to choose to keep it.
I feel uneasy here Roy, as I don’t believe in spirits, but I also DO believe in science and research. So far, we understand that having same sex attractions is normal and natural. Many animals in the world, including humans have same sex attractions. It isn’t a choice. Many gays and lesbians tried with all their might to change and couldn’t. I would request that you explore those stories and see the humanity in the struggles. We are not talking about monsters or demons, but people.
You know good and well its wrong and perverted to no end.
Actually, no. I don’t know that nor do I agree with it. I think these labels of wrong and right are dangerous and promote violence. We all know what the TV taught us, that the guys who are wrong suffer without any acknowledgement of their humanity. I hope you are able to see this lable process of words we use is hurting more people than it helps.
You also know and believe in right and wrong.
No, I don’t. I did until I learned that this are just labels we use to put people into boxes that lead to violence. I stop when I learned that. Now I have replaced those terms with new words that remove the “deserve” language and replace it with needs met or not meet. It promotes less violence.
I also believe that you probably dont believe in God but im willing to bet you believe that you believe there is a satan.
Nope, I don’t. So don’t bet much, you lose. I don’t believe in supernatural stuff at all. No ghosts, no spirits, no gods , no demons. I just don’t buy into it.
Your anger really isnt against people like me.
Anger, I have none. I am not angry Roy, I am worried and concerned that we are on a path that will bring us all down in the name of gods who do not exist. I see the evidence everyday as well kill, discriminate and treat others like crap in the name of gods we cannot prove exist.
Its against yourself for the fact that you are weak and pathetic and an insult to all that is good and natural.
I was sad when I read these words. You did a good job of telling me “what” I am, but you have never met me. Would it not have been more productive to tell me what you feel and need? How can I meet your needs or make changes in the world if you have told me what you think I am rather than what you need and feel? Try again, I will listen.
Stop looking at those against you and look at yourself.
Roy, I have spent a lifetime of 40 years looking at myself. Did you really think you could change anything I have learned or concluded with one comment on my blog, that calls me names and tells me I am evil, perverted, weak and pathetic. Why would I listen to anything you have to say when all you do is call me names and insult me? If you want to reach gays and lesbians with a message from god, you might want to start by speaking in words that make them want to listen rather than words that make then want to ignore you. Just a suggestion.
Your the one that wimps out to bad choice not us.
So, it sounds like you would like us to make choices that agree with you? Do I have that correct?
I have children that need to be protected from you and your kind including any one that thinks its normal.
I am sad to hear you believe this, but It sounds like there isn’t much I can say to change your mind. I can tell you I have a big family and they don’t share your belief that anyone needs to be protected from me or people like me. I am disappointed you feel this way, that is why they call it homophobia. It means people are scared of gay people and feel they need protection. People like James Dobson, Peter LaBarbera, Stacy Harp and Matt Barber have put that fear into you that you feel you need protection from people like me or my kind. I bet if you spent a day with me, you would learn that isn’t true. I invite you to spend a day with me and my partner. You will learn that isn’t true.
You are a disgrace to man kind and God and our children and schools and family morals.
Gee Thanks, I guess. You have done a great job at judging people like me and telling us “what” we are by calling us a disgrace to man kind, but how is that helping anyone to tell them “what” they are? I would feel so much more confident if you would tell us what you are requesting of us rather than the moral judgments of what you think we are. I believe telling us what you want, feel and need will be more productive then your judgments of what we are.
I hope I answered your concerns Roy, and stayed respectful of your beliefs. Please feel free to comment again.
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UPDATES: Roy has returned and left lots of comments. I don’t have time to answer them now, but I will over the next few days. I have been without cable or internet, so it won’t be till I have the new hook ups.
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